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Last Post 29 Aug 2008 02:16 PM by Christopher Garrett. 12 Replies.

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03 Jul 2008 12:24 PM
This Sunday afternoon I updated to the newest version of SSP, which means I also got all of the new Slide Show Builder updates. I use SSB for all of our slide shows in SSP (Every Sunday). Well Monday Afternoon I received a call from our pastor and he told me he wanted me to put some things on the screen for the Wednesday night service (this was the first time he's ever asked for "Sermon Notes" on a Wednesday night). I told him O.k. and he sent me his notes. He always copies (not attach) into an email and sends it to me. I open his email as html and everything looks fine. I put this Slide show off till Wednesday morning because of the new program and I knew this wasn't going to be an edit of the previous weeks sermon like I normally do. (and I'm trying to see all of the Midnight Oil webcasts from the CMN Conference before they get deleted). I Wednesday morning I opened SSB and started by using the Text slides Builder. It is great and much better than starting from Scratch. I really like the ability to set Global settings for the slideshow like margins, font, shadows, and even horizontal and vertical spacing. the other thing that I figured out is how you could just paste the entire document and separate the show into individual slides. But there were a few things that I'd like to see changed. Here they are: 1) My Bullets didn't import correctly they came in as " n " (space-n-space) and I'm o.k. with that. But when I highlighted them and pressed "CTRL- PERIOD" to add the bullet it just added the bullet. It did not overwrite the highlighted text (I got over this but I would like it if it were changed) 2) Because of the length of the slide show and I was doing it at work I would like to save the show during my input process. This stems from the fact that when I got it done the First time SSB locked up (went to 99 % CPU usage for over 8 minutes) and I had to end the task and as soon as I exited the wizard I forgot to save . 3) When I finished the wizard the first time I had all of my bullets (3-4 per slide) just like I wanted them and finished the wizard only that my bullets were in a single text box. I had to start over from scratch in order to animate them in one at a time. (When we use bullets can they automagically be different elements on the Slide so they can be transitioned on/off individually?). 4) When I used the Insert Slide Break (CTRL-ENTER) it always added an enter to the end of the line. This is a problem since if you use Grow and/or Shrink text to fit it just adds another line of text (Blank) that makes the text smaller. This is usually a problem when I paste but It may be my problem and I'm learning to "deal with it". 5) When I Copied and Pasted in the Wizard (from the wizard text box to the wizard text box and/or in the "Split Text" textbox) the Text looked correctly but didn't keep the Underline formatting. (this was also the case when copying and pasting in SSB Also(I think opening the editing text and then pasting over in another Editing text box)). 6) (I really struggled with putting this one here as It's not something I'd use very often) Is there a way to select the title of each slide when using the "Split Text" box instead of using one title for all of the slides. 7) Lastly in the wizard itself can something be added for slides that don't have titles (you either have to put the same title on all slides or name each one individually and it you don't name the slide the title is "Slide x") just a check box that changed per slide for No title sounds good to me. I'd like to say how great it is to have a company that actually listens to what the end user wants and thank you for that. Also, I'd like to reiterate that the Text slides Builder is much better than what we have had in the past and once again R-technics and SSP is raising the bar in the Worship Software Industry. Thankfully, Chris Garrett P.S. If this needs to go somewhere else please put it there.

Thanks, Christopher E. Garrett Oakmont Church of God Shreveport, Louisiana

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03 Jul 2008 12:42 PM
Looks like great additions. I'd put the ones you feel the most strongly about in the wish list. Except I guess many of them look like potential bug fixes. I'm looking forward to trying this feature myself.

...Joel Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church ______ "I'm working on my 5 year plan. I just need to pick a font." - Chuck

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04 Jul 2008 10:47 AM
I have noticed this in past versions of SSB, and it is the reason I never used Bullet spacing. When Center Aligned and Right Aligned, the text is pushed off the right side of the screen. I was able to prevent this by setting the default value to '0' instead of '720'. With the new version of SSB, the lowest you can set it to is .1%, so Center Aligned is now Right/Center Aligned. I have found that anything .3% or more does push the text from going off the edge. Yes, I do set the bullet to nothing; to pevent them overlaying the first letter. For those that are looking for this setting, there is a Bullets tab on the Slide Text display properties.

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09 Jul 2008 02:27 PM
@cegarrett I am reviewing your list and will respond accordingly.... And Thanks - We appreciate the positive feedback....

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09 Jul 2008 03:20 PM
Posted By George on 07/09/2008 2:27 PM @cegarrett I am reviewing your list and will respond accordingly.... And Thanks - We appreciate the positive feedback.... Thanks for looking at these points. Now I Just need R-technics to write a Church Management Software Suite

Thanks, Christopher E. Garrett Oakmont Church of God Shreveport, Louisiana

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09 Jul 2008 03:24 PM
Now I Just need R-technics to write a Church Management Software Suite GoFishMedia.net, reseller and support provider for SSP have PurposeWare available. However, I'm not sure who wrote it.

...Joel Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church ______ "I'm working on my 5 year plan. I just need to pick a font." - Chuck

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25 Aug 2008 08:58 AM
Posted By George on 07/09/2008 2:27 PM @cegarrett I am reviewing your list and will respond accordingly.... And Thanks - We appreciate the positive feedback.... Just doing follow Up on my "Issues" It's been ~1.5 months and I haven't seen responces to these concerns. Are they being corrected in the Newest version, Just forgotten about or do I need to add them to the Wish List?

Thanks, Christopher E. Garrett Oakmont Church of God Shreveport, Louisiana

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27 Aug 2008 04:16 PM
cgarrett, My apologies for the delay... As I said, I had reviewed the list but wanted to give you some substantive responses. Alas, this fell off my radar so thanks for the nudge... I see that your list is a mix of things so I will address each one individually: Disclaimer: I am using the latest beta so some of the items you mentioned may have been fixed since your original post... 1) RE: Bullet Copy/Import - This actually has 2 parts... Part 1 - I am not sure why your bullets did not copy/paste correctly. This was tested quite a bit. Was a non standard graphic used for the bullet in the email? I tried a variety of bullet types and they were always converted to the standard "dot" bullet when pasted. If you can still duplicate this I would be interested in getting the source to try it here. Part 2 - The reason the selected text was not replaced is that the bullet command (CRTL- PERIOD) is a toggle of the bullet style, not the insertion of a bullet graphic. This behavior is as intended and mirrors other style changes such as bold or underline. 2) What I believe you are asking for here is an auto save feature. I am not sure if that can be used in the middle of the wizard, but may be possible in SlideShow Builder - Auto Save for programs and SSB is already on the wish list - you could add one for the wizards if you like. 3) This would be a wish list item to add this option to the Text Slide Builder although you can do this now with some creative use of the Top Ten List Builder. Things to be aware of is that in the Top Ten Builder they are presented in reverse order and it uses numbers instead of graphic bullets. This would require some re-ordering and style editing but it might save you some time. This would certainly be more useful as a feature to add bullets as separate objects. Think about how you would like to see it implemented and add it to the Wish List. 4) Is this in the Split text window? I did see this behavior and reported it. 5) RE: Style during pasting - This has 2 parts: Part 1 - I checked this in the wizards and it did preserve the style settings when copied/pasted inside the wizard fields. If you still see this let us know.. Part 2 - in SSB there are several types of text fields. It appears if you paste the text using a Regular Text field, the style is preserved but the other text field types appear to be removing the style info. One note here - check your clipboard paste options in SSB under preferences -- We will look into this... 6) RE: Split Text titles: Yes, sort of.. At the bottom of the Split Text box there is an optional title field that allows you to enter a different title than what is already in use but subsequent slides in the split will use that title plus a (2),(3), etc to cover all splits. If you want something more specific, please add it to the wish list. 7) I am not sure if you are referring to naming of slides themselves or the display of the title on the slide when presented - there are a couple of options for both so if those do not fit your needs, think about how you would implement it and add it to the wish list. I hope this helps - We really appreciate the feedback...

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27 Aug 2008 09:15 PM
George Thanks for taking the time to revisit this I'll try to verify what you've stated 1) part 1 - I don't have one right now but when I Get another Bullet to paste (from the pastor) I'll paste it here and see what happens 1) Part 2 - I understand now 2) O.k. Thanks 3) I'll try to type this up and add it to the wish list 4) Yes in the Split Text Window 5) I Don't honestly remember exactly what I was trying to do (I'll Revisit again) 6) What I would Like to see is the ability to highlight something like the scripture reference and Press a button and make it the Title for that slide. I think this will have to be added to the Wish list. 7) What I was looking for was a "blank" title for some slides and when I blanked out the Title for those slides the Title displayed on the slide was Slide 8, Slide, Etc... when what I really wanted was nothing. Thanks Again For your time, Chris Garrett

Thanks, Christopher E. Garrett Oakmont Church of God Shreveport, Louisiana

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28 Aug 2008 09:29 AM
cgarrett, No problem - A quick follow up on Item 7... You can display a blank title by un-checking the "Include title on" option for the slides that you want no title displayed. This setting is applicable per slide.

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6) What I would Like to see is the ability to highlight something like the scripture reference and Press a button and make it the Title for that slide. I think this will have to be added to the Wish list. This capability has been added in the July 2008 Edition.

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28 Aug 2008 01:36 PM
Posted By dreece on 08/28/2008 10:35 AM This capability has been added in the July 2008 Edition. Thanks again for your willingness to allow the Community/Users to push the development of the program.

Thanks, Christopher E. Garrett Oakmont Church of God Shreveport, Louisiana

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29 Aug 2008 02:16 PM
I got the sermon notes for Sunday's sermon and it still is doing the same thing. So I looked at the HTML Code. It looks like the "n" (lowercase n) is a Block point in the Webdings font. is there anything I can do about that? thanks in advance,

Thanks, Christopher E. Garrett Oakmont Church of God Shreveport, Louisiana

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RE: How to Revert from Beta to Official Release by CFC in User Support - V7

Posted By Gary Presley on 31 Jan 2010 03:26 PM

You should be able to just re-install the 10/21/2009 version by using that complete executable. The program will tell you that you have a new version installed, but you can still install the older version.

Could you please elaborate on this? Where is this complete executable is located?

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RE: March 2010 Edition Available for Beta Testing by Cleber Caldas in Latest News

I had the very same problem while I was trying out the December Version with the Windows 7. After some "trial and error" process, I found out the problem is related to the "Cinematic FX" collection.

Try to uninstall and reinstall it without the Cinematic FX option (unselect it when reinstalling SSP). It worked fine for me. Good luck.

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I haven't yet updated to the latest release. Was this resolved? If not, it just happened again on the 2/24 beta.

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I have a pretty long trace file if you would like it. The video file is in the SSP Video directory, on the local HDD.

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I might add to what George said by directing you to "presets" for songs and other items. We use somewhat similar formats for songs and scriptures each Sunday and I have "preset" these for quick application. I then can make modifications as desired for a particular Sunday.

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Symptom:
During a Song import from PPT the right-click menu is no longer available in the Slide Text box when importing song text from a PPT. This may cause difficulty in editing content. Import is still possible and text entry and deletion are possible, only the right click menu is affected.

Possible Cause:
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Possible Solution:
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H.264 Video or thumbnails may cause SSP to be unstable and lock up when added or viewed.

Possible Cause:
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This was discovered using movie trailer files that would play fine in applications other than SSP. At this time there is no solution but it is best to try a different file to make sure it is not a wider issue. Please contact the Support Team and provide the video file for analysis.

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10 Mar 2010 11:56 AM
RE: Audio clip doesn't restart when slide show restarts by George in User Support - V7

Hmm - Interesting...

I just tried this using blank slides entered as program elements and got the same expected behavior I described before. Are you using "blank" blank slides (default blank slide is black color only) or do you have something else set for your blank slides?

I would say at this point if the behavior persists and you can duplicated it, contact the support team so they can do a remote with you and actually see what is going on.

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I too would recommed that you backup/archive/zip your current R-Technics folder and install the evaluation of version seven. If the PC cannot handle it, which I doubt, do a complete uninstall of Version 7 and go back to version 5.5.

It is my understanding that version 7 is much more stable, and can function more efficiently on an older machine than version 5.5 can.

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RE: 32bit vs. 64bit by iamgap in User Support - V7 on Windows 7

To add yet another fly into the ointment...

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09 Mar 2010 10:47 AM
Video file types supported in Video Chain (MI016) by George in Media Issues

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Keep in mind the required codec/filter still needs to be available on the system for proper playback of these file formats.

Video Clip (*.avi)
Video (*.mpg4)
Video (*.mp4)
Video (*.m4v)
Video (*.mp4v)
Video (*.mov)
Movie Clip (*.mpg)
Movie Clip (*.mpeg)
Movie Clip (*.mpe)
Movie Clip (*.m1v)
Windows Media Audio/Video File (*.wmv)

If some of the listed types do not appear in the Video Chain panel, review the instructions for selecting visible video types in the KB article MI010.

(MI016)

09 Mar 2010 08:11 AM
RE: SSP loses audio when run with PowerDVD by norvilles in User Support - V7

Ah. Never would have thought that those two things would go hand in hand.

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17 Mar 2010 09:08 PM
RE: March 2010 Edition Available for Beta Testing by Cleber Caldas in Latest News

I had the very same problem while I was trying out the December Version with the Windows 7. After some "trial and error" process, I found out the problem is related to the "Cinematic FX" collection.

Try to uninstall and reinstall it without the Cinematic FX option (unselect it when reinstalling SSP). It worked fine for me. Good luck.

Cleber

09 Mar 2010 07:30 AM
RE: Cinematic Effects Collection: Easter Special from GoFishMedia by osborn4 in Latest News

And if you have multiple projection licenses, one purchase covers all of them.

03 Mar 2010 12:10 PM
RE: December 2009 Edition Released by norvilles in Latest News

No problem.

Also I tested on Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP 64bit.

05 Feb 2010 08:13 PM
December 2009 Edition, 2/4/2010 Candidate Release by dreece in Latest News

The 2/4/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

XP/nVidia driver problem is resolve.
Single core use is now the default. Users can still switch to multi-core mode.

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

29 Jan 2010 03:40 PM
December 2009 Edition, 1/28/2010 Candidate Release by dreece in Latest News

The 1/28/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

Various bug fixes.

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

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