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19 Nov 2005 01:26 PM  
Hello all,

I have been using ssp for 8 years now but never stopped to checkout the forums. Seems to be a lot of good info here.

Does anyone currently use a cue light system in their stage setup? If so, could you please let me know what system and how well it works?

I am looking for such a system for our church and would like to keep it simple. Just a small remote controlled (wireless) flasher would be fine.


Thanks so much,
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20 Nov 2005 06:25 AM  
I'm not sure what you're talking about.  Are you talking about having your stagelights run on cues by using a lightboard? 
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20 Nov 2005 07:36 AM  
Firstly welcome to the "forum".

You might need to give us a little more info about the "cue light ", theres a few ways this could be interpreted.

I take it you are talking about a light flashing to tell you to change slides??

I have given guest speakers a remote to use to advance there own slides.
I have also used a remote "door bell" to cue the slides. (we were set up behind the stage at one conference and the monitor TV was useless. I walked over to the hardware shop accross the road bought a cheap remote door bell and gave the button to the speaker to press, when he wanted his slides advanced)

I have seen some churches that have a push button mounted on the lecturn that flashes a light in front of the operator to change the slides.

Others have suggested it should be wired to an electrode to keep the operator "awake"

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20 Nov 2005 11:12 AM  
Thanks for the replies,

I would love to place an electrode on our video guy but really need something more professional. The type of device I am talking about would be a small remote control operated by the speaker that when pressed would send a visual or/and audible signal to the video operator, letting him or her know when to advance the program. I have seen very few devices like this and what I have found seems very expensive for it's function at around $600 dollars. I think I may be going with Rods idea and “invent” something. Although I will try for a little more class then a doorbell. (-; But whatever works at the time right?

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20 Nov 2005 11:18 AM  

Looks like its 3 replies for the price of one day. I only clicked submit once.

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21 Nov 2005 07:49 AM  
Our "solution" is for the speaker to provide audible cues to the video operator, i.e., "The next point is...", "secondly...", "Read the next verse with me...", and other phrases are cues for the operator to go to the next slide.
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21 Nov 2005 11:12 AM  

This is why the Preview pane is so important to me.

I use the preview pane and a copy of the speaker's notes. I Alt-Tab between the notes and SSP to follow along with the notes, and then advance the slide when that part of the notes comes up.

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21 Nov 2005 12:06 PM  
For the sermon, we print out the speaker notes and mark the cues in there.

The pastor sometimes wanders a bit from the notes, but as long as he remembers the next cue (which he does), we are generally good.
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21 Nov 2005 12:56 PM  
a great solution for us was to purchase the powerpresenter rf by honeywell.

super small about 1.5'' x 2.5'', excellent range up to 100 feet, usb and ps2 compatible, easy to program, forward back and laser all in one, and of course great price. around 90 bucks from tigerdirect last i checked.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=660481&CatId=627
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29 Nov 2005 04:11 PM  
Thats one of the best wireless control devices I have seen yet brown. However I was thinking somthing more on the lines of not giving the speaker any control over the computer. I did find this: http://www.dsan.com/CueLights/DoCueII.asp but still not quite. I know the solution will come.

Thanks for your help and I will make note of the model number of your remote.
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01 Dec 2005 09:32 AM  
if your alright with a soldering iron and don't mind ripping into some electrical devices you can frankenstein a cue light using a wireless doorbell unit and make it power a LED instead of the speaker. i did this once using a couple of LED's and a couple of resistors. It's pretty cheap.

the ringer unit normally plugs into an outlet, and you can run the LED on a wire as long as you like so you can integrate it into your desk or workstation.
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02 Dec 2005 03:28 AM  
Hey, where has my post gone???
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02 Dec 2005 05:38 AM  
I don't know, did it disappear?
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05 Dec 2005 04:29 PM  
My solution to this involved a bit of soldering and some XLR plugs. I bought a cheap USB mouse, opened it up, removed its ball, rollers and left buttion and put it in a little box.

I connected a couple of wires to where the left button was, and to an 3 pin XLR female mounted on the box (use pins 2&3).
At the other end, I mounted a momentary push-to-make button in the end of an XLR plug (sliced off a bit of the strain relief, and used a glue gun to hold it in place).

This then allows us to use standard mic cables & tie lines to position the clicker wherever we want to.

There's a couple of disadvantages with it -
1 - it requires the operator to position the mouse over the advance button,
2 - it works on the [press and] release of the button, rather than just the press (same as a normal mouse does), so it doesn't appear to work straight away.

We call it the "Weather man's button" as it's just like what they appear use on the weather on the TV here.

Hope this is helpful to someone - if you decide to make your own, make sure you get a button with a positive action to it, ours is a bit weedy!

Philip

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08 Dec 2005 08:50 AM  
Here is what I am looking for. I'm giving them a call! http://www.videocam.net/Equipment_CueLight.shtml
However the door bell idea will be my second solution.

Thanks
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OK. Thanks. I'll just stay wiith Sept for now. Don't have time to mess with testing etc.

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