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19 May 2009 10:25 PM  
Moving this discussion from the non-Vista forum.

I got a new Vista Laptop (32 bit). I installed my fav Oct 2006 SSP and got an evaluation license. Everything seemed to work just fine, except I couldn't import a DVD to show (background loops were fine). When I tried to import a DVD, instead of the DVD opening in the import dialog, a separate window will open. I can't select anything in that window, so I can't select anything.

The laptop had PowerDVD version 8. I upgraded to PowerDVD DX version 9. No difference.

I installed several different versions of WinDVD. I tried version 4, version 8 and version 9. Behavior was exactly the same in all version. I could import DVD perfectly. It worked great. However, background loops didn't display correctly. They didn't fill the whole screen (leaving a green bar on the right side of the screen). Sometimes the green bar was in the preview window and sometimes it wasn't, but it was always on the second monitor. I would also get a yellow artifact on the left side of the screen at towards the bottom (almost like a 3 pixel line). As soon as I unstall WinDVD, the import doesn't work but background loops start working again.

I tried to install PowerDVD version 5 (that's what worked on my previous XP laptop with SSP Oct 2006), however there's no unstall for PowerDVD 9 that I can find. It's not in the add remove programs, there's no menu item. VERY WEIRD. So installed PowerDVD 5 alongside, but it didn't help. I uninstalled PowerDVD 5 and now have PowerDVD 9 again, but the behavior in SSP is unchanged.

Any suggestions?????
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20 May 2009 06:30 AM  
Can you give tech support a call directly?
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20 May 2009 07:43 PM  
I was hopeful that tech support browsed these forums... Is that not the case?
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20 May 2009 08:34 PM  

They do, and George often responds, but sometimes a problem is best diagnosed via remote desktop support.

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21 May 2009 05:14 AM  
I just purchased WinDVD 8 for $15 off of eBay, so soon I'll be able to check that out.

According to KB article SSP027 there are some pretty severe DVD playback restrictions in SSP on Vista.
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27 May 2009 10:36 PM  
I don't think it's an encryption problem. The DVD plays. It just doesn't show up in the dialog so I can pick the track. It shows up in a different window.
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28 May 2009 09:34 AM  

downeyflo,

This sounds like the old "active movie" window issue.  I have not heard of this for some time.  It was caused by some unsupported players.

From what you have described it sounds like the laptop you have came with DVD player software, unfortunately we have had very bad luck with the stripped down OEM versions of DVD software as noted in the KB Osborn4 referred to - the DX in the name is a telling sign that it is OEM and not retail. 

It sounds like the import worked with WinDVD but you are having additional issues.  It is common for issues to compound when multiple players are installed on a system.  If they are not uninstalled fully some or all of the CODECs and filters will be left behind and cause issues.

My recommendation is as follows -
1. Uninstall all DVD software from the system.  This includes any editing software you may have installed.  Make sure that during the uninstall ALL shared files are removed. 
2.  You can check that all of the mpeg2 filters and codecs are gone by trying to play a non DVD mpeg2 file - if it will still play there is something left behind.  The exception here is if you have Vista Ultimate or Home Premium - they have built in mpeg2 support and will complicate things a bit.  If this is the case do the best you can uninstalling the apps as I mentioned. 
3.  Open the SSP DVD import panel and try to import something.  You should get nothing at this point but an error message that indicates no compatible player is installed.  Close SSP.
4.  Install an approved DVD application (KB SW020) and attempt to import a supported DVD type (KB SSP027)

If this does not fix your issues, contact the support team.

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04 Jun 2009 08:56 AM  

Well, it's better and worse....

I think I've uninstalled PowerDVD DX. That was a pain. I'm not sure if I got all of it - specifically the codecs. I'm not sure where they are on the system.  Tried importing a DVD in Song Show, it doesn't work. Still get the active window thing...

Installed WinDVD 8 and bought a license. Something seems kind of strange, because WinDVD won't start. Trying to work that with Corel (painful). But when I go into SSP, I can import a DVD. Yea!

The bad part is now the background videos are not correct. They often display with a green bar on the right side of the image. This is in the video on the presentation monitor and in the preview on the SSP Control panel. It's almost like the video is not wide enough to fit the screen. The background color on the slides is set to black, so I shouldn't see green. This same program plays flawlessly on the old XP laptop. If I play around long enough, eventually it starts working. I've found no real pattern to that, but running through every slide, every presentation, every song, every jpg in the entire program 4 or 5 times seems to usually do the trick - then the background motions are the correct size and their's no green bar. But this is not a good solution and doesn't always work.

I sent an email to tech support, but I'd like to get this fixed before this Saturday when we have services. Any clues?
Is this a codec issue? If so, where are the codecs in Vista?

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04 Jun 2009 09:15 AM  
There's a piece of freeware called g spot that is supposed to help sort out the codec issue. I've not had success, but tech support has.
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13 Jun 2009 09:25 AM  
I had a similar issue which took me about 14 hours to figure out (I use Vista Home Premium 64 bit sp1). I went through the same steps (upgraded Power DVD and WinDVD, Codecs etc.) but what fixed my DVD import issue was downloading all the previous updates for Direct X 10 and previous. Below are the instructions I followed. I hope it helps


In Windows Vista: Uninstall the program from "Programs and Features".

See: Microsoft - Windows Vista Help: Uninstall or change a program



During the uninstallation, you may encounter an "Error 1905", with a message similar to the one above. Press OK to continue the uninstallation.

After making sure WinDVD is no longer on the computer, update/repair the Windows DirectX by visiting the website http://www.microsoft.com/directx. Click on "Learn More" for Gamers, and then "Download the Latest DirectX". This will take you to a website where the latest version of DirectX is available to download. The name of the download should be "DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer".
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Posted By Kenneth Rosentrater on 17 Mar 2010 05:36 PM

Greetings, I do hope that the Windows 7 compatibility will be fully worked out...

 

 

Ken and Cleber,

If you are having issues, please contact the support team as they are better equipped to handle you inquiry by looking at your system via remote to determine what is going on.

At the very least, please post your comments in the correct forum.  If you are having Window 7 issues, they need to go in the User Support - V7 on Windows 7  forum so that the people that can address your post will see it in a timely manner.

I looked at the issues you listed on several Win7 systems and saw no issues.  This is all the more reason you should contact the support team at your earliest convenience so they can walk through it with you.

 

 

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I haven't yet updated to the latest release. Was this resolved? If not, it just happened again on the 2/24 beta.

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In order to get it to pop an Alert!, I clicked the SSP task (on the Windows Task Bar) three seperate times. The second reported Not Responding, the third popped the Alert!.

3432 - Hint: Ssp: Unable to use fill type: Video File. Reason: Unable to use video file due to it's slow response time

I have a pretty long trace file if you would like it. The video file is in the SSP Video directory, on the local HDD.



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Symptom:
During a Song import from PPT the right-click menu is no longer available in the Slide Text box when importing song text from a PPT.  This may cause difficulty in editing content. Import is still possible and text entry and deletion are possible, only the right click menu is affected.   

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Possible Solution:
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Hmm - Interesting...

I just tried this using blank slides entered as program elements and got the same expected behavior I described before.  Are you using "blank" blank slides (default blank slide is black color only) or do you have something else set for your blank slides?

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I too would recommed that you backup/archive/zip your current R-Technics folder and install the evaluation of version seven. If the PC cannot handle it, which I doubt, do a complete uninstall of Version 7 and go back to version 5.5.

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The video file extensions that are supported in SongShow PlusTM for the Video Chain tool are a subset of the video file extensions that are supported in SSP globally. 

Keep in mind the required codec/filter still needs to be available on the system for proper playback of these file formats.

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If some of the listed types do not appear in the Video Chain panel, review the instructions for selecting visible video types in the KB article MI010.

(MI016)

09 Mar 2010 08:11 AM
RE: SSP loses audio when run with PowerDVD by norvilles in User Support - V7

Ah. Never would have thought that those two things would go hand in hand.

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18 Mar 2010 01:40 PM
RE: March 2010 Edition Available for Beta Testing by George in Latest News

Posted By Kenneth Rosentrater on 17 Mar 2010 05:36 PM

Greetings, I do hope that the Windows 7 compatibility will be fully worked out...

 

 

Ken and Cleber,

If you are having issues, please contact the support team as they are better equipped to handle you inquiry by looking at your system via remote to determine what is going on.

At the very least, please post your comments in the correct forum.  If you are having Window 7 issues, they need to go in the User Support - V7 on Windows 7  forum so that the people that can address your post will see it in a timely manner.

I looked at the issues you listed on several Win7 systems and saw no issues.  This is all the more reason you should contact the support team at your earliest convenience so they can walk through it with you.

 

 

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And if you have multiple projection licenses, one purchase covers all of them.

03 Mar 2010 12:10 PM
RE: December 2009 Edition Released by norvilles in Latest News

No problem.

Also I tested on Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP 64bit.

05 Feb 2010 08:13 PM
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  • XP/nVidia driver problem is resolve.
  • Single core use is now the default. Users can still switch to multi-core mode.

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

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The 1/28/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

  • Various bug fixes. 

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

 

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