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dave bachelierUser is Offline
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10 Feb 2008 07:26 PM  
Our church is in need of a new projector for our worship services.  I thought before I start seaching the web, I would ask the user group their opinions on which models/brand they have had success with and would recommend.  The primary purpose is project SSP and the message.  Occasional we will show a video but 90% of the usage is for the Sunday service.

Anyone have any recommedations I would appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.
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10 Feb 2008 07:41 PM  
I say buy more lumens than you think you need and we have found DLP produces very nice pictures. Ours is a Panasonic, but I wouldn't say it is better than all the others -- probably about equal to the others.
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10 Feb 2008 08:29 PM  

The best thing you can do is get some estimates from professionals. I posed a similar question on Churchmedia.net, and found that what we needed was more expensive than we could afford. We have a 2500 lumen Mitsubishi that I absolutely love (as far as options), but would like to upgrade due to our high ambient light. I also want to relocate the projector to the back of the sanctuary, to make maintenance easier and safer.

I took pictures of our sanctuary from the location I wanted to put the projector, and then emailed them to the people I was working with. I am sorry that I cannot remember who they are, but I was told about them during that thread. Right now, I cannot access my PST, so I cannot look them up for you.

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11 Feb 2008 06:56 AM  
When we put in our system in 2002, based on the measurements of our sanctuary, screen, distance from the balcony to the the screen, the experts recommended a Panasonic 5000 lumen projector. I had found the display to appear washed out, so I set it to run at a lower power setting -- I think 3500 lumen. It looks really good at that setting. I don't know what kind of bulb life we should expect from a projector, but we are still on the first bulb. The unit came with a second bulb installed that fails over automatically -- but it has never turned on.

We have been very happy with that projector and I suspect that getting more than you need, and running at lower power increases bulb life.
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11 Feb 2008 05:24 PM  

Well there is alot to consider when looking for the right projector...
1. What size is your screen?
2. What ratio is it? (4:3 or 16:9)
3. What size is your room?
4. How much ambient light is there?
5. Do you use it for videos or just words?

If you could answer these questions, we could probably help you alot more.

Size determines what resolution is needed, as well as gives a good level of minimum lumens.
If you have a 16:9 screen, then a 16:9 projector maybe better...altho they are more expensive.
Video vs just words - If you just use it for words, then either DLP or LCD. When it comes down to it, in my experence DLP projectors (especially the new ones with the dark DLP chips) produce a MUCH better result with video, giving much more contrast then LCD. There are loads more factors to consider...

Including TCO (how long the projector will last and how much do bulbs cost etc)

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12 Feb 2008 06:09 AM  
thanks for the replies.

We currently use a 4:3 but our leadership would like to consider a 16:9 - we have the wall space to do so.

We use both videos and words.

Our room size is aprox 50x100

Anything we buy will be 100x better then the 10 year old projector we currently use!

One question as I have been searching. What does is mean when the aspect ratio is 4:3 but it says it supports 16:9?

Does anyone use a projector with rotating/self cleaning filter? That sounded like a good idea to me.
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12 Feb 2008 07:04 AM  

For clarification ... are your measurments in feet or metres?

So i'm guessing your projecting on a white painted wall then?

What size width and or height would you like the screen size to be?

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12 Feb 2008 07:25 AM  

Sorry forgot to answer your last 2 questions...

If a projector is 4:3 natively, but it supports 16:9 it just means that if you set the projector to run as 16:9 it will reduce the number of pixels used to make it 16:9...

XGA (1024x768) is a 4:3 resolution. If you had an XGA projector that supported 16:9, it would only use 1024x576 pixels, leaving a black band at the top and bottom of the screen.

If you have a white wall (no actual screen) then I'd say stay with 4:3 as 4:3 projectors are cheaper.

 

As for self cleaning filters, nice idea, although if installed from the ceiling in a air-conditioned room, then the filters don't get too bad. Anyway I don't think it should really change what projector you are looking for.

I suppose it all depends on your budget as well.

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12 Feb 2008 07:51 AM  
Check this post over at ChurchMedia.net for some equations to get you started.
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13 Feb 2008 02:05 AM  
wE HAVE A tOSHIBA x3000 projector.  3000 lumins and does us well. i wouldnt get anything less.
Get the best within your budget.
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We understand the need for this, and work continues under the hood torward that goal. We will be sure to make it well known once this capability is supported.

12 Mar 2010 09:49 AM
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I might add to what George said by directing you to "presets" for songs and other items. We use somewhat similar formats for songs and scriptures each Sunday and I have "preset" these for quick application. I then can make modifications as desired for a particular Sunday.

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During a Song import from PPT the right-click menu is no longer available in the Slide Text box when importing song text from a PPT.  This may cause difficulty in editing content. Import is still possible and text entry and deletion are possible, only the right click menu is affected.   

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Hmm - Interesting...

I just tried this using blank slides entered as program elements and got the same expected behavior I described before.  Are you using "blank" blank slides (default blank slide is black color only) or do you have something else set for your blank slides?

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Ah. Never would have thought that those two things would go hand in hand.

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And if you have multiple projection licenses, one purchase covers all of them.

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Cool!! I wonder when they'll finally add this as a feature??? I also wonder WHY it hasn't been added in the past. It just seems like a "No Brainer", because it's a basic feature to support. ESPECIALLY, because we're dealing with a projection type of program. Like I said, PowerPoint supports it and probably has for years... I guess it just confuses me as to why it wasn't always a part of SSP, being the awesome program that it is. GIF's MUST be harder to deal with than I think.

Thanks for your reply.

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Update 3:

I have updated to the december release. It appears the problem has gone away for the time being. I noticed there was an update in the visualitation'S .dll . Also this machine is 4+ years old. I wonder if the video card might not be beefy enough for the improvements you have give the program during that time. I did run the hardware test and it didn't have a problem with the card.

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No problem.

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As Joel said, add the slide show to a program, save the program, and then Package to Go.

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And if you have multiple projection licenses, one purchase covers all of them.

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No problem.

Also I tested on Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP 64bit.

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Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

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  • Various bug fixes. 

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

 

22 Jan 2010 03:31 PM
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The 1/21/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

  • Added configuration option to enable/disable multi-core support (for support purposes, the default is multi-core support enabled).
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  • Fixed problem when Video Playback Settings is used for the first time with a video file (introduced in the first beta build).
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  • Fixed problem that could occur when selecting transitions in the Display Properties window.

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

 

 

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