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Bruce PoeseUser is Offline
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29 Jun 2006 12:36 PM  
I am sure this question has been asked before but I can't find it....  I am trying to figure out how much time I should be expecting to spend on creating the program for a service.  I will be given all the songs and the order of worship.  There are no sermon notes and I will not have any video editing to do.  I will need to make slides for the "liturgy" and naturally the songs, but the lyrics with already be there.  What I see as the most time consuming part witll be finding backgrounds that match the Sunday's theme and/or to match the words to the songs.  Any feel for this?  I realize there will be additional time for practicing with the Praise Team and corrections to the program aftwards, but how much time do you spend creating the program?

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29 Jun 2006 01:39 PM  
HI!

Don't worry about asking repeat questions here.  Right now, I can put together a whole SSP program in less than 10 minutes and that includes the sermon outline.

Initially it took a lot longer.  Sometimes the most difficult part is finding the backgrounds to use for the songs.  However, if you add the background to the song through the song panel then the background stays with the song.  After a while, you will have quite a database built up of songs with backgrounds.  That makes it so easy. 

What I do now is put together the program at home on my laptop.  I then package it to go and take it up to church for the worship rehearsal.  We run through everything.  I make any changes necessary and it is ready to go.  Once you get into a routine with Songshow Plus, it will become almost second nature and quick.  It does help if you try to assemble backgrounds when you have down time at home, etc., that way you can build up your library of backgrounds.  A good source is www.heartlight.org.  I have a lot of backgrounds I got from them initially. 

Hope this helps!
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29 Jun 2006 03:07 PM  
I spend 2-3 hours. That includes updating the announcement slide show and creating the song show for all parts of the service except the sermon. That is a separate task usually performed by someone else. We have 5 songs, total.

If seems every time I get comfortable with the process and start getting the time down, another really good idea comes up and uses up that time.

For instance, we still use Powerpoint for the announcement loop that we show before and after services. However, we want something to show during the announcement time in church, and self advancing slides only cause chaos.

So each week I decide which announcements in the announcement loop are liable to get vocally announced and I import those slides as jpegs into an images folder (called announcements). Then I insert those graphics into the program at the start of the service, with some eye catching transitions, so the operator can show them as appropriate. This is a chance to really have some fun with transition.

Also, with V7, now we can combine video over a still image for even more possible backgrounds. Learning the ins and outs of those controls and developing the vision of what might look good together has added to our prep time.

I don't know how many pieces of liturgy you have, but I have added our statement of beliefs and the version of the LORD's prayer that we use into our song database, so they can be brought up quickly.

Of course, those are all unison, not leader/congregation response like much liturgy is, so that might not work well and you'd need to go to Slide Show Builder to do that.

The handful of responsive readings we do, I've done in Slide Show Builder, and I'm getting better at it, but it's still kind of a pain. Powerpoint would be easier, because that's the tool I'm familiar with. But on our system, it takes PPTs a few seconds to launch from SSP, so I try to avoid them in the service, except for the sermon and announcements.

The other advantage Slide Show Builder has is the insert scripture function, from the text tool. That is very nice if you have the right Bible versions installed on your computer.

The best source I've found for background images is Churchmedia.net. For $30 per year, you get access to the 10,000+ images (and videos) in thier Media eXchange Center (MXC).

A free source, especially if I'm looking for nature type stuff, is sxc.hu.

Good luck and have fun.
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Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church
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26 Jul 2006 05:49 AM  
We have two music leaders who basically alternate weeks. Each is responsible for entering their songs and verse sequences into SSP. They each have a CCLI account. They use a prior weeks ssp program as a template because I have put so many blank slides and notes in for various situations, but it also saves time.

Then I apply backgrounds, making sure the background is different from when the song was used before. This takes maybe 1/2 hour (but I know our video inventory well; when I get help they take much longer because they have to review the many thumbnails).

What takes much much longer is the SSB "slide" show; how long depends on what is being put in it (this is shown outside of the service itself). For example, this week I took some new videos for the welcome part, and I added two questions-answer segments. Doing stuff like that takes longer, but note it is not SSB/SSP implementation time, it is just the normal planning/developing time.
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Thanks Cleber, for the clue, and George, for the offer.

Since I have more to do than I can keep current on anyway, I'll stick with September version that I know works until I see / hear indications that the Windows 7 glitches are cleared out. I have no desire to uninstall/reinstall and hope that things might work and/or to spend lengths of time on tech support trying to iron things out.


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Just moving the discussion from "March 2010 Edition Available for Beta Testing" forum to this one as suggested.
At least for me, as described below, it was solved by not installing Cinematic FX, though we lose this plugin functionality, obviously.
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17 Mar 2010 05:36 PM  

Greetings, I do hope that the Windows 7 compatibility will be fully worked out by the time this one comes out. The December version is virtually unusable on my Windows 7 workstation, I am sorry to report to you. I went back to September edition. (Dec edition works fine on our XP presentation machine.)

Here are the issues my near-brand-new Windows 7 Professional has with Dec release of SSP:

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3) "Program" drop-down menu non-functional
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17 Mar 2010 09:08 PM  

I had the very same problem while I was trying out the December Version with the Windows 7. After some "trial and error" process, I found out the problem is related to the "Cinematic FX" collection.

Try to uninstall and reinstall it without the Cinematic FX option (unselect it when reinstalling SSP). It worked fine for me. Good luck.

Cleber
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Posted By Alexander Kurdyumov on 17 Mar 2010 10:23 PM
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I haven't yet updated to the latest release. Was this resolved? If not, it just happened again on the 2/24 beta.

It hung when switching from one song to another. One had the clouds animation with an image overlay @ 25% transparency and 100% size. The next had a Shift Worship MPG file (praise in cliff).

In order to get it to pop an Alert!, I clicked the SSP task (on the Windows Task Bar) three seperate times. The second reported Not Responding, the third popped the Alert!.

3432 - Hint: Ssp: Unable to use fill type: Video File. Reason: Unable to use video file due to it's slow response time

I have a pretty long trace file if you would like it. The video file is in the SSP Video directory, on the local HDD.



EDIT: I edited the file type from WMV to MPG, as I realized it was one of the few MPG types we still had. I also downloaded the WMV version, and used that after restarting SSP, without issue.

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We understand the need for this, and work continues under the hood torward that goal. We will be sure to make it well known once this capability is supported.

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I might add to what George said by directing you to "presets" for songs and other items. We use somewhat similar formats for songs and scriptures each Sunday and I have "preset" these for quick application. I then can make modifications as desired for a particular Sunday.

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Possible Cause:
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Possible Solution:
This was discovered using movie trailer files that would play fine in applications other than SSP.  At this time there is no solution but it is best to try a different file to make sure it is not a wider issue.  Please contact the Support Team and provide the video file for analysis. 

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RE: Audio clip doesn't restart when slide show restarts by George in User Support - V7

Hmm - Interesting...

I just tried this using blank slides entered as program elements and got the same expected behavior I described before.  Are you using "blank" blank slides (default blank slide is black color only) or do you have something else set for your blank slides?

I would say at this point if the behavior persists and you can duplicated it, contact the support team so they can do a remote with you and actually see what is going on.

09 Mar 2010 05:59 PM
RE: SSP Version 5.5 with SongSelect Online by iamgap in User Support - V5.5


I too would recommed that you backup/archive/zip your current R-Technics folder and install the evaluation of version seven. If the PC cannot handle it, which I doubt, do a complete uninstall of Version 7 and go back to version 5.5.

It is my understanding that version 7 is much more stable, and can function more efficiently on an older machine than version 5.5 can.

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18 Mar 2010 03:49 PM
RE: March 2010 Edition Available for Beta Testing by chapelbythesea in Latest News

Thanks Cleber, for the clue, and George, for the offer.

Since I have more to do than I can keep current on anyway, I'll stick with September version that I know works until I see / hear indications that the Windows 7 glitches are cleared out. I have no desire to uninstall/reinstall and hope that things might work and/or to spend lengths of time on tech support trying to iron things out.


Just let me know when the upgrades fully function with Win 7. Thanks.

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And if you have multiple projection licenses, one purchase covers all of them.

03 Mar 2010 12:10 PM
RE: December 2009 Edition Released by norvilles in Latest News

No problem.

Also I tested on Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP 64bit.

05 Feb 2010 08:13 PM
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The 2/4/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

  • XP/nVidia driver problem is resolve.
  • Single core use is now the default. Users can still switch to multi-core mode.

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

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  • Various bug fixes. 

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

 

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