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13 Sep 2005 03:58 PM  
I was just wonderin, I am looking for inetnet for our church, what would be best, dsl, cable... i dont know.  Also would it be best to do a network, or what?  anyone have any opions?
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13 Sep 2005 04:16 PM  
First. See if either will allow you a 30 day trial.
Second. Ask everyone you know, that has either, in the area what they think of the service.
Third. Assess how these answers affect your needs.

I made the mistake of signing up with DSL without asking about a 30 trial. I was then stuck with DSL for a full year.

Where I live, the DSL is about 1/4 the speed of cable. I also had a lot of connectivity issues the last couple of months that I had DSL. They kept blaming it on where my router was located, so I relocated my router (doing it myself, it cost over 100$ for the supplies). Those changes made no difference.

I have heard some people say that their cable is slower than dsl due to the number of people in the area. So be sure and ask around, and compare one to the other if you can.

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13 Sep 2005 04:25 PM  
well, i have cable at home and it seem good, but the prob is they would ahve to run a line to it, and then i have a friend who has dsl and she says its great, and i could get that through our phone company, i think.  But i dont know.  i would have to call them and ask.  also i am to talk with my dad cause he can help me too.  i think he would know what to do.
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13 Sep 2005 04:56 PM  
Check out http://www.dslreports.com.  Great site for finding and evaluating broadband service providers in your area.

One other thing to keep in mind is whether or not you will need one or more static IP address for hosting an onsite web or ftp server, or perhaps an internet camera for broadcasting a worship service.  If you are just getting started in all this, you probably don't, but it is a consideration.  If you need static, most cable providers do not offer that.  Even being in Silicon Valley, for awhile we had a really hard time getting decent broadband.  I did finally end up finding a good service that provides adequate bandwidth. 

As far as networking goes, that is a seperate issue and depends on your needs/wants/desires.  Simple networking is very easy to setup now with any Windows XP based computer.  It's all built in with wizards.  You can go either wired or wireless depensing on your situation.  That's part of what I do at our church, so feel free to ask any questions. 

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13 Sep 2005 11:18 PM  

I recommend that you ask others in your local area about their experiences and what they recommend.  For instance, in our area, it seems that DSL is more reliable than cable, but that might not necessarily be the case in your area.

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14 Sep 2005 12:54 PM  
We haven't had problems with the DSL at our church. But I would ask around in your area. One occasional problem with cable is some (most?) cable companies won't let you get cable internet w/o getting cable TV.

We were going to get cable internet at church, it was going to be about $10 or so a month cheaper than the DSL. But it would have cost us $2000 to have cable installed in the church. So we went the easier route and got DSL.

Whether you need a network or not depend on how many computers you want to have internet access and if you have other networking needs, printer and file sharing, for instance.

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14 Sep 2005 06:01 PM  
Posted By osborn4 on 09/14/2005 12:54 PM
We haven't had problems with the DSL at our church. But I would ask around in your area. One occasional problem with cable is some (most?) cable companies won't let you get cable internet w/o getting cable TV.

We were going to get cable internet at church, it was going to be about $10 or so a month cheaper than the DSL. But it would have cost us $2000 to have cable installed in the church. So we went the easier route and got DSL.

Whether you need a network or not depend on how many computers you want to have internet access and if you have other networking needs, printer and file sharing, for instance.

why 2000 dollars????

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14 Sep 2005 08:28 PM  
We are using cable, but our cable provider considers us a business and we didn't have to get cable tv.   By having a business plan, we also get a static IP and from our webhosting company we get 250 email boxes.  Our cable is exceptional, it has never been down unless there is power outage or something of that nature.  I would ask your cable company about its business plans, not the home plans.
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15 Sep 2005 05:22 AM  

Our church also uses cable internet without needing TV. I have residential Cable internet, and I am not required to have TV also. When I signed up, they told me it was illegal, in this area, to offer a discount on cable tv if you sign up with internet. Since I pay MUCH LESS for DTV, and have more options, I stuck with DTV. So, not all Cable companies require that you have TV also.

When cable tv offers the same options as DTV, for the same price, I'll switch. As a matter of fact, if C-Band programming offered the channels that DTV offers, I'd mount the dish. The last time I used C-Band, the programming was about 25% cheaper than DTV. C-Band also has a LOT of free channels, not to mention Ku-Band. And DTV can broadcast as many as 7 stations for every channel that C-Band can. That means they can make as much as 7 times more than C-Band, but still charge 25% more per package.

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15 Sep 2005 07:43 AM  
Getting the cable company to split out the Internet service would be majorly cool. They've got to huge of a monopoly as it is. Thiner only real competition is the satellttes.

I've got a c-band dish on top of my house, but it's frozen and stuck between satellites.

I once priced some c-band service and to get the dozen or so channels we really wanted (not the 200+ that we are getting) would have been about $60 per quarter!

But the convenience of not having to move the dish between satellites wooed me to cable. When I would have to move the dish late at night, it would sometimes wake up my wire and/or kids.

But if I could get a competitive price on DSL or get a reasonable rate for cable Internet, I'd certainly be looking at DirecTV or Dish.

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15 Sep 2005 06:05 PM  

I would check into the legal asspects of being forced to pay for both.

I was told by a former co-worker that he split his cable at the modem and sent the other line to his TV, and it some of the cable channels. I guess they rely on people's honest, or lack of knowledge or courosity.

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16 Sep 2005 08:05 AM  
Why $2000? Because they would have had to run the cable from thier nearest drop under our parking lot about 50' to 100'.
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16 Sep 2005 07:03 PM  
Basic cable must work on any TV without a box by federal law unless the company supplies the box free of charge.  Those channels are almost always available  even if you only want internet.
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11 Mar 2010 09:10 PM
RE: Bug in 2/26/10 build by osborn4 in User Support - V7

Sorry, I miscommunicated. I meant if I were you, I'd find time to call tech support. But my advice still stands.

11 Mar 2010 11:18 AM
Right-Click copy/paste menu does not work in PPT song import panel (TS098) by George in Troubleshooting

Symptom:
During a Song import from PPT the right-click menu is no longer available in the Slide Text box when importing song text from a PPT.  This may cause difficulty in editing content. Import is still possible and text entry and deletion are possible, only the right click menu is affected.   

Possible Cause:
Unknown - the root cause of this is still under investigation.
 
Possible Solution:
Import is still possible and text entry and deletion are possible.  The CTRL-X, CTRL-C and CTRL-V keyboard shortcuts work as well.  If a significant change in the arrangement of the text in the PowerPoint file is needed, this can be done using Microsoft PowerPoint. 

(TS098)

10 Mar 2010 05:37 PM
December 2009 Edition - Bug Fixes (SSP070) by George in SongShow Plus Issues

There are some previously reported bugs that have been fixed in the December 2009 Edition:

  • Drag and drop in Win XP was broken and fixed in the Beta cycle. 
  • Quick Message was broken and fixed in the Beta cycle. 
  • Live Video was broken and fixed in the Beta cycle.  This fix was an improvement of the previous patch that was required to use the Live Video Plug-in.
  • An issue with nvidia driver version 196.21 that broke the SSP Beta on XP was corrected.
  • Print Slideshow and song list selection spinners grayed out
  • Builder re-run error causing file browser to open unexpectedly.
  • H.264 issue with playback of .m4v, .mp4v, and .mpg4 video corrected.
  • Path displayed incomplete when adding sub-folders to panels.
  • Snowflake Wipe transition not working as expected.
  • Font selection when editing text in the Slide Show Builder not working as expected.
  • Background Improv folder navigation and state save corrected.
  • Monitor options placements selector not working as expected.
  • CTRL-V does not paste copied objects as expected in Slide Show Builder.

(SSP070)

10 Mar 2010 03:05 PM
H.264 videos or thumbnails may cause SSP to be unstable and lock up (TS097) by George in Troubleshooting

Symptom:
H.264 Video or thumbnails may cause SSP to be unstable and lock up when added or viewed.  

Possible Cause:
It appears that there are some H.264 video that can cause trouble in SSP. At this time this is very rare, however, the root cause of this is still under investigation.
 
Possible Solution:
This was discovered using movie trailer files that would play fine in applications other than SSP.  At this time there is no solution but it is best to try a different file to make sure it is not a wider issue.  Please contact the Support Team and provide the video file for analysis. 

(TS097)

10 Mar 2010 11:56 AM
RE: Audio clip doesn't restart when slide show restarts by George in User Support - V7

Hmm - Interesting...

I just tried this using blank slides entered as program elements and got the same expected behavior I described before.  Are you using "blank" blank slides (default blank slide is black color only) or do you have something else set for your blank slides?

I would say at this point if the behavior persists and you can duplicated it, contact the support team so they can do a remote with you and actually see what is going on.

09 Mar 2010 05:59 PM
RE: SSP Version 5.5 with SongSelect Online by iamgap in User Support - V5.5


I too would recommed that you backup/archive/zip your current R-Technics folder and install the evaluation of version seven. If the PC cannot handle it, which I doubt, do a complete uninstall of Version 7 and go back to version 5.5.

It is my understanding that version 7 is much more stable, and can function more efficiently on an older machine than version 5.5 can.

09 Mar 2010 05:52 PM
RE: 32bit vs. 64bit by iamgap in User Support - V7 on Windows 7


To add yet another fly into the ointment...

I didn't realize that my MoBo has a 4 year old (2 yr older than the mobo) chip on it (intel 945). So even though the processor and motherboard can support up to 4 GB of RAM, the chipset can only address 3.2 GB of RAM.

What I am most upset about is that the board advertised that it could support up to 4 GB of RAM, but didn't say it could only address 3.2. Had I known that, I wouldn't have bought this board. Time for an upgrade. Now I gotta find a board that supports the RAM that I just bought for this board.

09 Mar 2010 10:47 AM
Video file types supported in Video Chain (MI016) by George in Media Issues

The video file extensions that are supported in SongShow PlusTM for the Video Chain tool are a subset of the video file extensions that are supported in SSP globally. 

Keep in mind the required codec/filter still needs to be available on the system for proper playback of these file formats.

  • Video Clip (*.avi)
  • Video (*.mpg4)
  • Video (*.mp4)
  • Video (*.m4v)
  • Video (*.mp4v)
  • Video (*.mov)
  • Movie Clip (*.mpg)
  • Movie Clip (*.mpeg)
  • Movie Clip (*.mpe)
  • Movie Clip (*.m1v)
  • Windows Media Audio/Video File (*.wmv)

If some of the listed types do not appear in the Video Chain panel, review the instructions for selecting visible video types in the KB article MI010.

(MI016)

09 Mar 2010 08:11 AM
RE: SSP loses audio when run with PowerDVD by norvilles in User Support - V7

Ah. Never would have thought that those two things would go hand in hand.

09 Mar 2010 07:30 AM
RE: Cinematic Effects Collection: Easter Special from GoFishMedia by osborn4 in Latest News

And if you have multiple projection licenses, one purchase covers all of them.

08 Mar 2010 03:26 PM
RE: Animated GIF Support by pgulezian in User Support - V7

Cool!! I wonder when they'll finally add this as a feature??? I also wonder WHY it hasn't been added in the past. It just seems like a "No Brainer", because it's a basic feature to support. ESPECIALLY, because we're dealing with a projection type of program. Like I said, PowerPoint supports it and probably has for years... I guess it just confuses me as to why it wasn't always a part of SSP, being the awesome program that it is. GIF's MUST be harder to deal with than I think.

Thanks for your reply.

07 Mar 2010 02:04 PM
RE: Troubleadvancing through a program by osborn4 in User Support - V7

If you can reproduce it, I'd contact tech support.

You might want to try installing the latest release to see if that shakes anything loose.

07 Mar 2010 12:56 PM
Does December 2009 Edition Support Unicode? by CFC in User Support - V7

My license expires at the end of this month. The beta version I tried didn't support Russian language when displaying songs. There is no point for me to renew license unless the problem was fixed (September 2009 Edition supports Russian songs). I'm sure there are many other non-English churches that would be interested in SSP if it supported unicode.

To SSP developers: any news regarding unicode support?

05 Mar 2010 04:12 PM
RE: Resizing rotated graphics by Lucas in Beta Test Support

To me that makes perfect sense, cause it's keeping the image in the correct aspect.

05 Mar 2010 12:27 PM
RE: SSP Crashes when adding a song by KingsleyUMC in User Support - V7

Update 3:

I have updated to the december release. It appears the problem has gone away for the time being. I noticed there was an update in the visualitation'S .dll . Also this machine is 4+ years old. I wonder if the video card might not be beefy enough for the improvements you have give the program during that time. I did run the hardware test and it didn't have a problem with the card.

Well, the problem is under control for the time being. Let's let it die.

Tim Goldsmith

03 Mar 2010 12:10 PM
RE: December 2009 Edition Released by norvilles in Latest News

No problem.

Also I tested on Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP 64bit.

02 Mar 2010 03:50 PM
RE: Exporting slide show from one computer to another by iamgap in User Support - V7


As Joel said, add the slide show to a program, save the program, and then Package to Go.

You can also save the SSB to an external drive, and you can copy it to another computer. The down side to this is all the linked files (images and videos) will need to be copied also, and then pasted to a relative location on the other PC.

02 Mar 2010 03:14 PM
RE: Computer Setups by norvilles in The 'Wave Pool'

Well I see what you mean.
There is the debate between Linux, Mac and Windows. Then there is the debate between what Distro.

But Linux is becoming increasingly popular. You see it more and more often on the laptops of those setting in StarBucks.

But, all I'm saying is that if SSP could open up to the different platforms, that would be great.

And there will always be bugs in programs, no matter what. That is unavoidable.

Unless its a simple:

class Driver {
static void main(string[]args) {
System.out.println("Hello World");
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02 Mar 2010 03:10 PM
RE: Stage Monitor Output by norvilles in Feature Reviews

Having a redundant system set up is different senerio from this issue.

 

02 Mar 2010 12:20 PM
RE: Alpha Channel Video Over Motionback Video by techarts in User Support - V7

Still no luck on SlideShow method but the Program video method worked very well using the Alpha Channel "bridge" or "chorus1", "chorus2", "verse1", etc with a motion background display property.

I'll keep working on the Slide Show method though until I get what you are saying it should do...

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09 Mar 2010 07:30 AM
RE: Cinematic Effects Collection: Easter Special from GoFishMedia by osborn4 in Latest News

And if you have multiple projection licenses, one purchase covers all of them.

03 Mar 2010 12:10 PM
RE: December 2009 Edition Released by norvilles in Latest News

No problem.

Also I tested on Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP 64bit.

05 Feb 2010 08:13 PM
December 2009 Edition, 2/4/2010 Candidate Release by dreece in Latest News

The 2/4/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

  • XP/nVidia driver problem is resolve.
  • Single core use is now the default. Users can still switch to multi-core mode.

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

29 Jan 2010 03:40 PM
December 2009 Edition, 1/28/2010 Candidate Release by dreece in Latest News

The 1/28/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

  • Various bug fixes. 

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

 

22 Jan 2010 03:31 PM
December 2009 Edition, 1/21/2010 Candidate Release by dreece in Latest News

The 1/21/2010 candidate test release of the December 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is now available to current subscribers.

  • Added configuration option to enable/disable multi-core support (for support purposes, the default is multi-core support enabled).
  • Fixed missing Ctrl-V keystroke for Slide Show Builder.
  • Fixed problem when Video Playback Settings is used for the first time with a video file (introduced in the first beta build).
  • Fixed spin controls for absolute monitor placement settings.
  • Fixed problem that could occur when selecting transitions in the Display Properties window.

Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

 

 

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