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04 Feb 2007 07:18 AM  
My church just upgraded to A new computer (Core 2 Duo 2.8, Dual 512 Video Card, 2 GB Memory, & Sata II Hard drive) and SSP 7. 

We're thinking about a Webcast(Live) or at least putting the services(Recorded) on our website.  Do any of you do either of these?  What software do you use? What kind of hardware do you use?

I've never done video streaming  but i think this computer should be able to do this while I run SSP. I think I need a video capture card to get the inputs from the video and sound boards (probably just a splitter from the inputs that go into the DVD recorder) and software to capture and upload in real time(in the background).

The pastor has asked about this a couple of times so I don't think that funding will be a problem if I can get this working quickly.

Any suggestions and real-world experiences are welcome.

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Christopher E. Garrett
Oakmont Church of God
Shreveport, Louisiana
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04 Feb 2007 02:08 PM  
I wouldn't try to dual task the computer like that. Video capture is fairly resource intensive. And you don't want your projection to stutter or fail.

There's lots of expertise on questions like this over at ChurchMedia.net.

We're looking at heading in the same direction. So hang on. It's going to be a fun ride.
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Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church
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05 Feb 2007 05:00 AM  
we use seperate PC's for recording and AV.

I would never risk using the AV pc to try to do both.
If it locks up or has a moment.. you lose both.

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05 Feb 2007 07:32 AM  
Posted By cegarrett on 02/04/2007 7:18 AM
...We're thinking about a Webcast(Live) or at least putting the services(Recorded) on our website.  Do any of you do either of these?  What software do you use? What kind of hardware do you use?

...I think I need a video capture card to get the inputs from the video and sound boards ...
We put snippets of the sermon on our website. Ours is password protected at this time. I do not know how you would do it live yourself; first, whatever is uploaded would have to be compressed and second, I'm under the impression your host site needs software that accepts the streams. In my case I'm simply uploading completed videos files to our web site and then manually linking browser entries to the files.

The video files are captured, as you suspected, with a Matrox RT.X100 Xtreme Pro card installed in a dedicated computer. After the service I have to edit the captured files (Adobe Premier Pro) and export them into a compressed WMP format, then uploaded to the web site.

Since SSP often runs our 2.6GHz single-processor at 70-80-90% CPU I'd be surprised if you could do both functions with the same computer even with a more powerful one, but that is something you'll have to evaluate yourself.
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05 Feb 2007 08:06 AM  
Thanks for the Info.

I did some quick looking at Churchmedia.net and started worring about Copyright Issues. What is the correct way to tackle this. (what is your church doing) Also would I need to expand my SSP license to include my "Web Audience" ?

I talked to the pastor last night reguarding the possible Copyright Issues and he wants to get it done correctly. He even said that we may just start with sermons only; But he would like to get to the full service as soon as possible.
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Christopher E. Garrett
Oakmont Church of God
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05 Feb 2007 09:53 AM  
If you just do the sermon, there shouldn't be any problems.

A SSP license would not be an issue. You are still just using SSP from the one computer.

The CCLI license doesn't cover web distribution.

If you do songs, however, you need to look into a web broadcast license, whether live or making them available for streaming or download later. I can't remember the name of that service right know. But IIRC, it cost about $900 or so a year.
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05 Feb 2007 10:27 AM  
Here's what I was thinking of.

WorshipCast

$925/year. But it doesn't cover any third party music (e.g. pre recorded tracks and such).
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Cool!! I wonder when they'll finally add this as a feature??? I also wonder WHY it hasn't been added in the past. It just seems like a "No Brainer", because it's a basic feature to support. ESPECIALLY, because we're dealing with a projection type of program. Like I said, PowerPoint supports it and probably has for years... I guess it just confuses me as to why it wasn't always a part of SSP, being the awesome program that it is. GIF's MUST be harder to deal with than I think.

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I have updated to the december release. It appears the problem has gone away for the time being. I noticed there was an update in the visualitation'S .dll . Also this machine is 4+ years old. I wonder if the video card might not be beefy enough for the improvements you have give the program during that time. I did run the hardware test and it didn't have a problem with the card.

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Read What's New for a more complete list of new features and enhancements. Subscribers can also visit the Beta Test Support forum to post feedback and questions regarding the beta version.

You can download the beta test installation from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Beta Version Updates  or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

 

 

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