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Transferring songs from SSP to Easy Worship

Last Post 20 Feb 2007 11:55 AM by Joseph Kelley. 14 Replies.

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cwaugh

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11 Feb 2007 06:45 PM
We have been using SSP for several years now and we haven't had any problems with it. We have a new guy in charge of everything and has always used Easy Worship and wants us to start using it because he feels it is better. We have begun using EW, just trying it out, but we have had to retype every song that we need. Is there a way to transfer songs from one program to the other? I hope this is posted in the right place, but if you have any insight on the issue please help!

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11 Feb 2007 08:30 PM
I don't know of a way to do that en masse. You can put songs in a song show and, from the print menu, copy them into the clipboard as HTML. I don't know what kind of import EW has. If you have the Song Select Lyric Service from CCLI, then you should be able to download the songs directly into EW. If you have a chance, come back after you've gotten to use EW for a while and let us know what you think compared to SSP. I've always been curious about direct comparisons, but never taken time to do them myself.

...Joel Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church ______ "I'm working on my 5 year plan. I just need to pick a font." - Chuck

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11 Feb 2007 09:19 PM
Well we do have a membership there so that isn't a huge deal, we just play songs that have been written by the worship leaders here. The main reason that EW was even considered is because my pastor uses powerpoint messages and uses a remote clicker to advance the slides himself and EW would work with that. I could import the slideshow into SSP but his remote wouldn't work. For some reason it works fine in EW. I have a feeling we're going to start using EW even though I like SSP more but if pastor's remote won't work, we won't use it anymore.

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11 Feb 2007 11:29 PM
Over on ChurchMedia.Net there was a discussion about using remotes with SSP (or was it here) Apparently you can "Map" the buttons to a certain key press with certain models I'll do a search for the thread

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12 Feb 2007 04:46 AM
Actually, that thread is here, under Tips and Tricks: Using standard remotes with SongShowPlus Hope that is helpful. Of course, I am of the opinion that the pastor is better off preaching and not worrying about the screen while preaching. There are some presenters that can pull it off well. But most preachers I've seen do much better when freed to just do what they do best and let us do what we do best. But, that's my opinion. That and $8 will get you a grande latte. Each church and each speaker is different. Another option to have the remote work would be to run the sermon PPT in PPT outside of SSP. Just have the projector operator switch over to PPT, with the sermon PPT preloaded and the pastor could use his remote. Then switch back to SSP after the sermon.

...Joel Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church ______ "I'm working on my 5 year plan. I just need to pick a font." - Chuck

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12 Feb 2007 04:19 PM
Our pastor's have a direct connection on stage to the overhead and they use there laptop from the stage with their PPT or watever they wish to use. That way they are happy and we are happy. We have a 4 display switcher, 1 for SSP at booth, 1 for DVD/VCR/Camera, 1 for Stage, and 1 open for future use. I would like to control the presentations soly from the booth for more seemless transitions but the system works. Greg

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12 Feb 2007 08:20 PM
If you run PowerPoint as a separate program and not part of SSP then you pastor's remote would work fine. That's what we do. All your operator has to do start the PPT show and he should be good to go.

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13 Feb 2007 12:20 AM
Well thats exactly how we've been running things for a few years now, the only reason we've tried to have the Powerpoint presentations in SSP is because our computer wasn't able to handle it. We then upgraded to a better pc and everything worked fine BUT we had issues with people having to switch back and forth between SongShow and Powerpoint. I don't see a need to change but the decision is not up to me. I appreciate the help everyone! chuck

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13 Feb 2007 04:47 AM
I've never understood why switching between SSP and PPT was such a big problem, but I got the same feedback from the operators at our church. Good luck and please go come back if you have any observations about SSP vs. EW.

...Joel Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church ______ "I'm working on my 5 year plan. I just need to pick a font." - Chuck

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13 Feb 2007 05:43 AM
I dont understand whats so hard either... our operators switch all the time and no one notices.. (Alt + Tab) or click on the program at the bottom of screen?? We leave any PPT we are going to use open and ready to just hit the projection icon in PPT. Just a tip... Make sure you have your desktop color set to black.. when you minimise SSP and click onto PPTall they see is a black screen. and it the operator fades SSP to Black just before the switch, then fades back to the background after the switch its even more seemless.. Rod

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13 Feb 2007 06:46 AM
We wouldn't even minmize SSP. We just switched to PPT and it would take over the second display until we ended that slide show. Then the SSP slide was still there. No black screen that way. We just needed a slide or graphic in SSP to put up before switching to PPT that would make sense after the PPT.

...Joel Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church ______ "I'm working on my 5 year plan. I just need to pick a font." - Chuck

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13 Feb 2007 05:35 PM
That's how we do it, too. For the transition slide we put the background slide from the PPT into SSP images. Start and finish the sermon with the same background slide and switch back and forth between the two programs without anyone knowing.

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18 Feb 2007 05:28 PM
Reading all of this makes me so thankful for a pastor that just gives me a handwritten outline and a list of scriptures. I dread the day that we have a pastor who is computer literate and wants to do his own PPT. I enjoy having artistic freedom for our services. I consider it a ministry.

kreal Real Life Church Columbus, MS

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20 Feb 2007 04:54 AM
I agree with the sentiment Joe but not the reality. I have a pastor who loves to create his own powerpoints and they are great (because he is an artist), better than anything I have ever done & I am reasonably creative. Our second pastor also used to do his own & I hated it as they made me cringe, different fonts, alignment problems, different centering margins used - you name it he did it. Just no idea. And even though I offered he still tried to do it himself! What I am saying is that it really depends on the person. Next time you call a pastor pray for one with an artistic flair. To me the ministry is in serving whoever is leading, worship leader, pastor... I want to have what they need available on screen for them before they ask for it.

dv means God Willing from the Latin "Deo Volente" dv is also my initials - cool eh! David, Lincoln Baptist Church, NZ.

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20 Feb 2007 11:55 AM
DV, Very well said.

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