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16 Jun 2009 03:03 PM  
One of the frequent requests we've received over the years has been the for a secondary display output. With the May 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus, you now have the option to send a secondary display output signal from your projection computer to your stage monitors...
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17 Jun 2009 07:49 PM  

I have tested this on my workstation at home. The third output is a GeForce4 MX4000. Once I had a monitor connected to all three outputs, and had the desktop extended across all three displays, there was no negative impact to SSP.

I would like to add that setting it to page by page would be a better choice than verse at a time, as some of our songs have really long verses. This would make the font really small, unless we spread the verse over multiple verses.

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18 Jun 2009 01:14 PM  
Yes. Page by page is a must.
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18 Jun 2009 03:24 PM  
I agree the Text should remain the same just no pretty Backgrounds, Colors, or Movies.

I would personally like to see shadow be rendered on the Stage monitor so I could use this as a constant output for Chroma Key overlay on our DVD for at home use.
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07 Jul 2009 01:12 PM  
I also agree with the page by page idea.  I like the lyrics taking up the whole screen but on long verses the text is illegible from the stage (too small).  The page by page options so that the same lyric content is on both screens would help.  Other than that our team loves the display.  It is much easier to read and follow.
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08 Jul 2009 05:33 AM  
Me2 on Page by Page. This made me think of one other suggestion (wish) that may/may not be difficult to implement. What IF we could control the font size (or just "size") on the choir monitor. The constant problem with choir monitor for us is "focal length" - when I try to make the words "big" for the congregation, it's too big for the back choir screen and vice versa. I would think most churches have the same problem and being able to hang their choir monitor projector at the right place or "affording" the right lens may not be feasible.
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08 Jul 2009 11:02 AM  
We've been using this feature a couple of weeks and it's working out great for the worship lyrics. However, on slideshows it's not so great. We do SSP slideshows for the sermons and the "simplification" of a slide often makes it unreadable. For example, we're currently using a "scroll" image behind some black text. On the stage monitor, the text gets changed to white and enlarged bigger than the scroll it's overlayed on.

I'd like to request that SSP slideshows be displayed on the stage monitor "as-is", without simplification, and that backgrounds be included. Slides typically are created to look a certain way, and our pastor wants to see them that way. The way its doing the lyrics are great.

Also, our pastor has requested the ability to turn off the stage monitor completely for certain items. Right now there is no way to do that. Can a "Show on Stage Monitor" option be added to the display properties or to the item's context menu? Maybe it would be a three-way selection: "Show in original form", "Show in simplified form", "Don't Show", then we could choose on an item-by-item basis.
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08 Jul 2009 12:08 PM  
Posted By AslanLyle on 07/08/2009 11:02 AM
Also, our pastor has requested the ability to turn off the stage monitor completely for certain items.
You could always just unplug the cable from your computer.

Or you could get a A/B video switch Plug your computers into A and the stage monitor into the output of the switch and then switch the switch to B when you want that monitor blank.

Or better yet, get a old laptop to plug into input B and run CLOCK full screen on the laptop.

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08 Jul 2009 12:30 PM  
If you saw the complexity of the wiring we already have behind our computer, and the inaccessible location of the stage monitor, and the amount of training that is reasonable to expect from our projectionists, and how many people we already have in the production booth without much room for more, etc. etc. etc., then you would understand why I would very, very, very much prefer to avoid any of the above options!

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20 Jul 2009 09:05 AM  
I would like to suggest making a change to the stage monitor output.  For our singers, it would be easier to read the stage screen if the words were justified top and left.  This way the first line of every slide is always in the same spot, and it is easier to read down the slide instead of having an hour glass look of text on the screen.  (Longer lines at the top, short lines in the middle, more long lines at the bottom).  My singers were saying it would be easier if they knew exactly where the next slide was going to be displaying the first line.  This is a great feature and addition to SongShow but I think this change would enhance the option even more.
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20 Jul 2009 04:35 PM  
I like all of these ideas in this thread. The way our congregation projection screens are now configured and the length we've had to put the choir projector from the back screen makes the letters way too big for us to use (also, for some reason, SSP "seems" to enlarge the letters on the back screen using the Stage Monitor feature which further exacerbates the problem). Anyway, we really like this feature and if software could do some of this "correction" work for us on the projector, it would be wonderful - #1 Wish for us! :)
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24 Jul 2009 06:22 PM  
I'd love it to be a exact copy of the main output, formatting wise etc, but with a user selectable background colour. Shadows & effects would still apply.
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20 Aug 2009 08:58 AM  
Another suggestion might be to allow some content to be displayed only on the stage monitor. This would allow for technical direction to be displayed to only the stage. ie. An Easter production where you want only the choir to see certain lyrics or stage direction
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i've done that on the projection computer but maybe i need to check his computer.

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I was referring to using an A/B switchbox rather than an amplifier/splitter (DA box).

Your setup is what I was trying to describe. :ccol:

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I don't think ours is showing what is "next" but shows what was just used before hitting the Mute Display or Clear Display Toggle button. But I could live with an "option" too.

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I guess I gotta give you time to add it don't I?

I've never thought much of the limit of ten choices since I always had more than ten wishes I would like answered. I'd just as soon have the tech guys look at every wish, think about them, decide if they make sense and can be implemented reasonably, then either accept or reject them, and finally let us know the decision. Having wishes available for open discussion is a good idea as that usually will generate other ideas and gives tech some indication as to what the users are thinking. Right now there are too many old wishes still on the system and there are many great wishes (my judgment) still waiting to be added to the program. User input is essential in keeping programs vital and SSP has done a reasonably good job of listening -- but I still would like to see more activity in the wish-granting business.

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Glad you figured it out.

For anyone searching for help on this, there is a check box in the song lyrics display option that will italicize choruses, bridges and etc.

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RE: December 2009 Edition Available for Beta Testing by dreece in Latest News

Posted By Alexander Kurdyumov on 10 Jan 2010 01:14 PM
Does this version fully support unicode yet?



 

I'm sorry, but this edition does not address any further support for unicode.

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