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21 Mar 2019 05:03 PM  
This subject came up like 10 years ago under SSP 7. It did not seem to have a satisfactory or simple answer at the time. 

We do fairly frequent medleys. Is there any way to build a medley from the components of individual songs? One reason this challenges me is that we use separate video backgrounds for each song, and I would like to maintain those while building the medleys.

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21 Mar 2019 09:13 PM  
You could assign a background to the songs in the song database under Default slide properties, rather than in the program item..

Then add the songs as needed using verse order on each program item to get the lyrics up.

e.g.
Song 1 (v1, v2, c)
Song 2 (v1, c)
Song 1 (c)
Song 2 (b,c)
Sone 1 (c)
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23 Mar 2019 07:48 AM  
Thanks for the suggestion, Joel. Not sure it will accomplish what I would like to do.

I left something out. It always frustrates me that I need to start all over again when we do any particular medley. What I would really like, and don't see as a capability, would be to build the sequence of songs and save that sequence as if it were a song.

It can be frustrating, but our worship leader rarely does these medleys the same way with the same verse sequences. If the songs were packaged together, but still as separate items within the package, then I could adjust the verse sequences within each song each time we do it. And the video backgrounds would stay with the songs.

Again, thanks! Still looking for ideas. It also seems odd to me that this has never been seen as a needed feature.

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23 Mar 2019 09:13 AM  
Couldn't you just build a special song which is the medley? After all,
the song editor doesn't if you're putting the the lyrics from one or
more songs. As long as all the "parts" are there, you can present them
in any way you want.

Maybe I missed the point!
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23 Mar 2019 04:48 PM  
Posted By Dick Akins on 23 Mar 2019 09:13 AM
Couldn't you just build a special song which is the medley? After all,
the song editor doesn't if you're putting the the lyrics from one or
more songs. As long as all the "parts" are there, you can present them
in any way you want.

Maybe I missed the point!

I may have to go that route, but each of our songs has its own unique graphical background. I suspect there's no way to maintain that with this method. But it might work until something better comes along.

My preference would be a tool that allows us to take the medley songs as they are now in SSP, and then put them into a single container of some kind. Your method would work as long as I'm ok with having the same background throughout, I think.

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25 Mar 2019 07:45 AM  
Roger.

Comparing this request to the existing tools in SongShow Plus, it sounds like what you are asking for would be similar to a Song Chain.  This is an interesting idea.

In the meantime, if you are considering constructing a purpose-built object for this medley and want to be able to apply different backgrounds, my suggestion would be to go the slideshow route.
You can currently export any song as a slideshow to get the building blocks you need and then you can combine/include the specific song parts (now slides) as you see fit.  The slideshow construction allows you to set any background you choose to each slide.  I suggest using the slideshow themes to create and apply the desired background to the related song parts.

Another route you could go is to create a program specifically for the medley songs.  This would contain all the songs and backgrounds that you wanted and allow you to set the verse order as needed.  Then you can use the program merge function to blend this with your full program.  Having this as a separate program would allow you to adjust as necessary then re-merge to use again later in a different full program.

If you need more detailed tips on this you can contact the support team for help.
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26 Mar 2019 08:21 PM  
I was just thinking of the slideshow route. You could create a seperate slide show for each song in the medley, preserving the unique backgrounds, and then create a medly slide show by merging the two and then arraging the slides/verses as needed.
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09 May 2019 12:34 PM  
Some interesting ideas here. Sorry to take so long to return to this thread. The slideshow route probably does not provide the flexibility I'm looking for, but George's idea of using the Program Merge function might just do.

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15 May 2019 08:53 AM  
I have build a few songs using slideshow. It works fine and your can use different
backgrounds with whatever effects you would like. You can play the slideshow
any way you like; e.g., playing a chorus twice, going back to a verse, etc. I use
this for songs (like "How Great Thou Art") that we sing periodically and which have
verses which lend themselves to widely different backgrounds. You could even have
the same verse (named 1a, b, ..) with different backgrounds.
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23 May 2019 09:45 AM
RE: installed fonts not showing on screen by George in Version 8.5

Hi Dick. sorry to hear about your font problem.  We do have some KB articles that address this but before I get to that, I am curious about a couple of things...

You said you are having problems after a crash, so are you saying that these fonts worked before the crash?

The fonts you mentioned - what is the source and type?

You stated that GFM took control and did not find a solution - what was done after that?


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GT

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RE: Themes: rename?? by George in Version 8.5

Dick.

Unfortunately, at this time the answer is no on both counts.

If you are trying to backup/preserve the Blackout content, you can always do a "Save As.." when you edit to save it to a more friendly location.

Or better yet, do a PTG when you edit to capture all the content as well.

15 May 2019 08:53 AM
RE: Medleys by akins in Version 8.4

I have build a few songs using slideshow. It works fine and your can use different
backgrounds with whatever effects you would like. You can play the slideshow
any way you like; e.g., playing a chorus twice, going back to a verse, etc. I use
this for songs (like "How Great Thou Art") that we sing periodically and which have
verses which lend themselves to widely different backgrounds. You could even have
the same verse (named 1a, b, ..) with different backgrounds.

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Multiple Displays and HDMI Switch by mlmurray in The Wave Pool

Hi All!
I need a little help after a much needed upgrade of my projection setup at church.  Previously I had a projector with a long throw lens in the sound booth with some VGA splitters and switches to get signal where I needed it and to control what was being projected, simple as could be.  Now, I've moved to a remote mounted projector and an HDBaseT sender to get my video and all to the projector from the booth, and I've moved over to HDMI in the booth.
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I thought if I used an HDMI splitter between the computer and the HDMI switch and put a dedicated monitor on one output of the splitter and the switch on the other then that dedicated monitor would hold that second monitor position and prevent it from flickering off and on when I used the switch, but it doesn't.  Windows still thinks, for a split second, that I remove a monitor when I switch away.  It finds the remaining split-off monitor immediately, but not before it flickers and SSP brings all of its screens to the primary monitor.
I didn't have this problem when everything was VGA, I guess there just wasn't the back and forth handshaking constantly going on between the computer and the display.  Has anyone else had to deal with this and come up with any solutions?
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Matt

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I never knew what those were for. It does work nicely. Thanks!

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Well, it was worth a try. Thanks!

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Ben,

Some additional clarification...

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