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Jkelley
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09/06/2008 7:39 PM  
Guys,
I need as many opinions on this as I can get.


We are moving into a new facility soon. I planned to use two 16:9 120" electric screens on either side of the stage for our video. We are using 3,500 lumens projectors.
My pastor asked me what I thought about using Spandex stretched across a frame in the shape of a screen with the corners stretched out of proportion to match the tension fabric frame shapes we plan to use to decorate the stage. It's a cool idea but I'm skeptical. I'm wondering if I will lose too much quality out of the video? The video is very important and I don't want to see it looking like very low quality stuff.

Have any of you seen this done and if so how did it look? Do you think it's a good idea or do you share my skepticism?

Please, as many people as possible reply so I will know what to tell the pastor.
kreal
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09/07/2008 6:48 AM  
I think you would find that beaded screens (or other projection fabrics) would have a higher reflectivity (brighter image) and greater view angle-- both of which are really important in projection for an large audience.
Dick
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09/07/2008 1:45 PM  
I thik Dick hit it straight on.

Perhaps you could stretch the spandex behind the screen to get that look, but not sacrifice the projected picture.

I'd be tempted to ask this question over at Churchmedia.net. A lot more hardware and staging guys over there.
...Joel

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09/07/2008 1:59 PM  
Someone will eventually decide to take the spandex down or change color and you will have lost your screens. You will probably not find out about it until it's too late.
Tom
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09/08/2008 7:51 PM  

Thanks so much guys. I need more help please!!! I am not convinced that this is the way to go. We are in a day when we try to enhance the quality of what we produce and I'm being told that I have to reduce the quality of mine. It's frustrating. I thought the pastor was asking my opinion but I believe he pretty much has his mind made up. He asked me to research it more so I need to come up with some valid points to validate my opinion.

He wanted me to ask...

Would we still lose quality if the fabric was stretched against a wall that was painted bright white in the projection area as opposed to being suspended in the air where the light could go through it.

I didn't realize there were actually companies who market such a product. Here is what I found.

http://www.djscreen.com/index.htm
kreal
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09/09/2008 7:27 AM  
It is reflectivity and viewing angle that are so important for projection. Just because some is white doesn't mean that either of those qualities are adequate. A projected image on a white sheet, for example, may look pretty good when viewed straight-on, but the image will fade quickly as one moves to the side. The amount of reflected light, likewise, would be far less than with commercial screens. My advise is to produce the brightest possible image over the widest possible audience. This requires powerful projectors, high contrast ratios, and highly reflective screens with wide viewing angles. After all, the picture is the thing people are looking at; its mounting, etc. are ancillary.
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09/09/2008 7:29 AM  
It looks interesting for portable situations. If it doesn't perform well enough would you be allowed to replace it or will you be stuck?
Tom
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09/09/2008 12:02 PM  
Posted By twj on 09/09/2008 7:29 AM
It looks interesting for portable situations. If it doesn't perform well enough would you be allowed to replace it or will you be stuck?

I would feel better if I thought I wouldn't be stuck. Our budget is so tight moving into the new facility I'm afraid I will be stuck with it for a while anyway.
kreal
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09/09/2008 2:18 PM  
Looks like this was made to be a projection screen.
From the web site:
"Our screens are all made with an exclusive custom-manufactured stretchable material that ensures maximum luminosity and image quality."

From the review:
"I expected there to be a trade-off between the simplicity of setup and the screen's capability to reflect light. But when I fired up the projector, I didn't feel that I lost anything in color or brightness of projection using the new spandex screen."

I does look small for a church setting. Only 7' x 5' could be small depending on how large your church is.

I did a quick search on google for djscreen and found this discussion.
...Joel

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