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Fabula Dico
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10/30/2008 12:52 AM  
I am seeking reasons to stay with SSP over Pro Presenter. Has anybody here used both and then decided to us SSP for their worship services?

The new (earlier this year) director over our tech ministry departments of lighting and displays, video, and audio is pushing to replace SSP with Pro Presenter. He will be making this known to the Worship Leader and church staff this week.

I do not agree with this move for a variety of reasons. We are both volunteers, but I am the director of lighting and computer display department of the tech ministry. Any problems we have had with SSP are primarily attributed to "user error" (more training is needed) or configuration errors that can be corrected if we utilize the support from SSP.

My suggestion is to back up all of our data on the Windows computer we are currently using, wipe the hard drive (or replace it) and reinstall the OS. Then reinstall the software fresh and new. I think we have to be good stewards of the money that has been invested into the equipment and software that we already have. I also do not wish to learn or train the other volunteers to use an Apple computer.

I also don't believe we would be good stewards of the money that has already been spent on the hardware and software we already have. Much of the work we have already created may not be compatible with the new software solution or an Apple computer. We would also have to buy an Apple computer to use for this purpose.

I have until February 2009 to convince everyone here to stick with SSP, but it won't be easy.

Please post with your reasons for staying with SSP over Pro Presenter and why. If you can show any websites with comparisons, please post those links.

Thanks!
osborn4
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10/30/2008 6:52 AM  
The only reason I'd switch to Pro Presenter is if we were utilizing multiple screens.

I really don't know enough about PP to know where SSP is superior. I know the new pan zoom stuff is fantastic.

The main reason (without digging into PP) is financial. You'd need to buy a Mac plus the PP license. And then training all your volunteers on the new platform and software.

Check this post for one other SSP user's impression.

And check Doug's blog for write ups on the newer features. We've found the hue adjustments for stills and videos to be very useful. There are several other video enhancements that can be made through SSP without having to edit and rerender the video.

We also use the image overlay quite a bit to enhance motion and still backgrounds. Yes you could reedit the motion or still, but this can be done much quicker and keep your library smaller because you don't have to have a seperate background with each variation you want to use.

Visualizations and SlideShowBuilder are also things that PP probably doesn't have. In fact check out the feature list and see if anything else pops out.

SSP is very stable. I've only had it crash once in the last several years and I was trying to install a font while showing a Powerpoint using that font. So I'm not sure I can blame SSP for that one. 

Good luck and thanks for trying to be a good steward of God's resources.
...Joel

Milton Seventh Day Baptist Church
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07/04/2009 2:37 PM
RE: Adding sounds to transitions by osborn4 in User Support - V7

Sorry. No way to do that with SSP. Might make a good wish for the wishlist.

07/04/2009 11:06 AM
Adding sounds to transitions by clee in User Support - V7

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07/03/2009 3:42 PM
RE: Import lots of XML Songs by osborn4 in User Support - V7

Here's the XML format that SSP uses.

Hopefully that will help. I've not tried it before.

07/03/2009 2:43 PM
Background improv issue by iamgap in User Support - V7


If Background Improv is set as your default motion background, you cannot use an image background. Even if you have Transparent as the Default Background. I have also tried No Change, and the Background Image will not show. I have to set Background Improv to None. IMO this negates the advantage of Background Improv.

This started as soon as I installed the 6/30/2009 update.

EDIT:
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07/03/2009 2:33 PM
RE: Import lots of XML Songs by iamgap in User Support - V7


I haven't used it, but there is an import from XML feature. It is not a default Plug-in, so you have to select it during the install. You can add it by running the SSP installer again. The installer will only install items you check. Also note that it is a Professional plug-in, so you cannot install it if you have a basic license.

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07/03/2009 1:02 PM
Import lots of XML Songs by chmaier in User Support - V7

Dear All,
I was wondering how I am suposed to import 400+ Songs into SSP. They are all in XML Format
[ppl version="3.0"]
−
[general]
[title]KL I 4 I bi vo inne usse obe une[/title]
[category]Kinder[/category]
[language/]
[/general]
−
[songtext]
−
[part caption="Teil 1"]
−
[slide mainsize="32" backgroundnr="0"]
[line]I bi vo inne, usse, obe, une[/line]
[line]glücklich alliziit.[/line]
[line]vo inne, usse, obe, une[/line]
[line]glücklich alliziit.[/line]
[/slide]
−
[slide mainsize="30" backgroundnr="0"]
[line]Sit Jesus zu mir isch cho,[/line]
[line]die Sünd vo mir gät gno,[/line]
[line]bin i vo inne, usse, obe, une,[/line]
[line]glücklich alliziit![/line]
[/slide]
[/part]
[/songtext]
−
[order]
[item]Teil 1[/item]
[/order]

Any Help would be really apricated. It might be that I didn't find the right post too 

Thank's a lot!!!

07/02/2009 2:48 PM
RE: May 2009 Edition Released by osborn4 in Latest News

If your projector has a freeze function and the content of the main screen isn't going to change, then you could freeze the main projector and show whatever you want on the secondary display.

But you'd have to remember to change what you are displaying back before you unfroze the main projector.

07/02/2009 2:05 PM
RE: May 2009 Edition Released by bhackle2 in Latest News

If they make the second screen editable that would be hugh!

I was looking at Media Shout for that reason. Every support person I talked to said the same thing "the second display shows the same as the first except no background", but on the forums I found a person that found a way to edit the second display. I would rather use Song Show. Our media team really likes its ease of use.

07/02/2009 1:33 PM
RE: May 2009 Edition Released by osborn4 in Latest News

As I understand it, the feature will only show the same words on both monitors, just different formatting.

07/02/2009 1:01 PM
RE: May 2009 Edition Released by bhackle2 in Latest News

I'm excited about the secondary display output. Has anyone figured out how to edited the secondary display? We currently use two computers. One computer displaying lyrics only for the congregation, and the other computer displaying lyrics and notes to the praise team. If Song Show will allow editing of the secondary display, we can get by with one less computer and operator.

07/01/2009 6:57 PM
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Yes. In SSP, go to Tools -> Utilities and select Data Files Setup From there, follow the bouncing ball.

You will need to be sure and have that drive attached whenever you fire up SSP. But I don't know why it wouldn't work.

07/01/2009 6:51 PM
RE: New Plug-ins Now Available by osborn4 in Latest News

I saw it. But I had to click in and enter my church's software ID to get in to the plug ins page.

07/01/2009 6:18 PM
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I plan to purchase the H.264 plug-in.

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07/01/2009 9:18 AM
RE: New Plug-ins Now Available by osborn4 in Latest News

Posted By cegarrett on 07/01/2009 8:09 AM
Am I correct in my thinking that the New Public Bibles are already included in the install; and the $25 fee is per machine/per translation only for the bibles listed above?
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RE: New Plug-ins Now Available by cegarrett in Latest News

Am I correct in my thinking that the New Public Bibles are already included in the install; and the $25 fee is per machine/per translation only for the bibles listed above?

07/01/2009 12:04 AM
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The plug-ins for the New American Standard Bible, New International Version Bible, New Revised Standard Version, Revised Standard Version, and The Message are now available for sale.

Also available for sale is the new H.264 plug-in.

Pricing information is available at sspstore.com.

Note: For those of you who may have acquired a license for a Bible plug-in during the test phase: You will need to be issued a new license file. Please contact technical support for assistance with this.

06/30/2009 11:59 PM
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The May 2009 Edition of SongShow Plus is formally released and is available to all users who have a current subscription, or whose subscription was current as of May of this year.

You can download the new edition from within SongShow Plus using the menu command Update > Check for Updates or by going to http://www.songshowplus.com then to the Download page.

Click here for a list of What's New in the May 2009 Edition.
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